Possibilities For Greyhound Adoption And Remedies For A Stressed-Out Cat

MR. SAM LITZINGER

12:43:32
I'm Sam Litzinger with Dr. Gary Weitzman of the San Diego Humane Society. Ask you animal-related questions at 1-877-610-3647 or animalhouse@wamu.org. Again, our telephone number 877-610-3647. Our email address is animalhouse@wamu.org. Let's take a telephone call from Christine. Christine, glad to have you with us in "The Animal House." Question for Dr. Gary?

CHRISTINE

12:43:57
Yeah. Hi. It's really an honor to speak with you both.

LITZINGER

12:44:00
Thank you.

DR. GARY WEITZMAN

12:44:01
Oh, it's an honor to speak with you…

CHRISTINE

12:44:03
Okay.

WEITZMAN

12:44:04
...actually.

CHRISTINE

12:44:06
Well, my beloved and sweet Golden Retriever passed away in July.

LITZINGER

12:44:10
Oh, I'm so sorry. It's awful, isn't it?

CHRISTINE

12:44:12
I'm sorry.

LITZINGER

12:44:13
Yeah, I know, Christine. It's the just the worst thing in the world.

CHRISTINE

12:44:14
I wasn't gonna cry.

LITZINGER

12:44:16
No. I know. I'm still doing that from time to time when I think of Ella the Beagle. Nothing wrong with it.

CHRISTINE

12:44:20
Okay.

WEITZMAN

12:44:21
Yeah.

LITZINGER

12:44:21
Just try to think of all the fun you had with your buddy is the thing.

CHRISTINE

12:44:25
She was almost 16...

WEITZMAN

12:44:26
Oh, wow.

CHRISTINE

12:44:27
...and -- yeah. It's just -- I really miss her. But anyway, so I have a lot of love to give a dog, and I don't want to be dogless, so I am thinking about rescuing a Greyhound.

WEITZMAN

12:44:41
I had two -- I've had two Greyhounds. Oh, Christine.

CHRISTINE

12:44:42
Okay. Well, but -- okay. So my question centers on other members of my household. I have a cat and then I also have a 20-year-old Cockatiel...

WEITZMAN

12:44:54
Okay.

CHRISTINE

12:44:54
...who also loved my dog, and would talk to her and would sit on her all day if she could.

WEITZMAN

12:45:01
Oh, okay.

CHRISTINE

12:45:02
And then I'm a classroom teacher, so I have two guinea pigs that go back and forth to school. So my question is, is there a Greyhound out there that would be compatible -- like how would I know if a dog would come into the household and, you know, love these animals too the way they all...

WEITZMAN

12:45:24
Yeah. Yeah.

CHRISTINE

12:45:25
...you know, responded to my dog?

WEITZMAN

12:45:26
Yeah. Well, you're looking for the magical Greyhound...

CHRISTINE

12:45:29
Okay.

WEITZMAN

12:45:31
...I think out there, that will get along with everybody, and I'm saying that with the happiness to tell you that they exist.

CHRISTINE

12:45:39
Oh, good.

WEITZMAN

12:45:39
If you talk to people that don't know Greyhounds, a lot of them will say, oh my God, you can never have your Greyhound off leash, you can never do anything but hold onto the collar because they'll take off and they'll be in Omaha...

CHRISTINE

12:45:48
Right. Right. Right.

WEITZMAN

12:45:50
...before you blink, you can never have them with other animals. And I can tell you, my two Greyhounds were the sweetest living things, absolutely loved every single animal, never ever strayed from my side. I could take them out to playgrounds. Now, you have to do this in a very controlled way...

CHRISTINE

12:46:09
Right. Right.

WEITZMAN

12:46:09
...to determine if you have that Greyhound. And I'd let them off leashes so they could run and it was breathtaking, the circles at 60 miles an hour. But it's not all Greyhounds. So we do know that Greyhounds, like a lot of dogs, can have a high prey drive, so we want to make sure that your animals are safe and...

CHRISTINE

12:46:27
Okay. Yeah.

WEITZMAN

12:46:27
...you know, Christine, you do too. I know that. But the good news is that Greyhound rescue groups know their dogs so well.

CHRISTINE

12:46:36
Okay.

WEITZMAN

12:46:36
They will have either tested, or will be willing to test their dogs with other animals.

CHRISTINE

12:46:41
Okay.

WEITZMAN

12:46:41
And you'll know. You'll know which ones, eh, not so good with kids, guinea pigs, cockatiels, you know, cats, and you'll know which ones are okay. And honestly, I've got a very, very dear friend in Fredericksburg, Va., Denise and T, two friends, who have Greyhounds and have always had them, and they have a menagerie.

CHRISTINE

12:47:01
Okay.

WEITZMAN

12:47:01
So it's definitely -- it's doable. So wherever you are, or anybody out there listening, if you want a Greyhound, which I would heartily encourage, contact Greyhound rescue in your area, and they know their dogs so well. And I'd say, Christine, you're in for a treat because these are just fantastic dogs.

CHRISTINE

12:47:17
Oh, so they would -- if I told them about my own household, they would...

WEITZMAN

12:47:23
Oh, yeah.

CHRISTINE

12:47:23
...say there's a dog there for you. Okay.

WEITZMAN

12:47:25
Yeah. Or they would -- or, you know, wait, we'll get -- we'll find one. Believe me they're coming off the track in droves...

CHRISTINE

12:47:31
Okay.

WEITZMAN

12:47:31
...and we need to save these dogs. And it's interesting because it's the one dog that we rarely see in shelters. We can get you one from a shelter.

CHRISTINE

12:47:38
Mm-hmm.

WEITZMAN

12:47:38
We can, you know, find one throw Greyhound rescue, but the Greyhound rescue groups are so active and knowledgeable and just terrific people. They know their dogs. They'll be able to find you a dog that'll work for your house.

CHRISTINE

12:47:50
Oh, thank you so much.

WEITZMAN

12:47:51
And then welcome to the racing dog fold, and don't race her.

CHRISTINE

12:47:54
Okay.

WEITZMAN

12:47:55
Just love her.

LITZINGER

12:47:55
You're going to be a good mom again, Christine.

CHRISTINE

12:47:57
Okay. Thank you.

LITZINGER

12:47:58
Thank you very -- and do tell us what you end up doing, okay?

CHRISTINE

12:48:01
I will. I will. Thank you so much. You make me feel so much better.

LITZINGER

12:48:03
Thank you very much.

WEITZMAN

12:48:03
Oh, you're welcome.

CHRISTINE

12:48:04
Okay. Bye-bye.

LITZINGER

12:48:06
Good for you. Let's take a telephone call from Laura. Laura, glad to have you with us in "The Animal House." Question for Dr. Gary?

LAURA

12:48:12
Thank you. I'm calling today about my cat Max's bowel and bladder problems.

WEITZMAN

12:48:17
Okay.

LAURA

12:48:17
He's an eight-year-old big orange Tabby weighing in at about 21 pounds. For the last six years he's been on a weight-reduction formula prescription cat food. It's a (unintelligible). And over the past year or so, Max has vacillated between constipated and having loose stool. And in December we made a big out-of-state move which clearly stressed him out...

WEITZMAN

12:48:40
Mm-hmm.

LAURA

12:48:40
...and I noticed that as we were getting ready to move, and after we moved, he constantly was grooming himself in the front. His stomach, forearms and shoulder were licked thin.

WEITZMAN

12:48:50
Ah, okay.

LAURA

12:48:51
And he was predominately having loose stool. And I attributed the licking behavior to the stress of the move, and the new drier climate and cold.

WEITZMAN

12:49:00
Sounds right. Mm-hmm.

LAURA

12:49:02
And then fast forward to May, June, I noticed that Max was having very loose, smelly stool, and he started to pee in places he wanted me to see and he buried it in front of me.

WEITZMAN

12:49:13
Hmm, okay. It's a cry for help.

LAURA

12:49:16
So we went in June to the vet and had a pretty extensive workup with blood work, urinalysis, fecal exam, etcetera, and I was told that he had a raging bladder infection, but no kidney issues.

WEITZMAN

12:49:32
Hmm, okay. Good.

LAURA

12:49:32
And he was given at that time an injection for the bladder infection, and then he was put on -- he also had a bowel infection and was put on two different courses of antibiotics. But after all of that, he still had loose stool, but he had stopped peeing on the carpet.

WEITZMAN

12:49:49
Hmm, okay.

LAURA

12:49:50
So the vet suggested that we switch his food to the -- a new gastrointestinal fiber response food...

WEITZMAN

12:49:58
Okay.

LAURA

12:49:58
...which we've been doing now for about four weeks and we've had some good results.

WEITZMAN

12:50:03
Oh, good. Okay.

LAURA

12:50:04
But his stool is still pretty loosely formed.

WEITZMAN

12:50:08
Hmm.

LAURA

12:50:08
But most upsetting is over the last several nights, Max has peed on the carpet where he knew I would see it. So the vet...

WEITZMAN

12:50:18
Okay.

LAURA

12:50:18
...I called in, and she just suggested another bout of antibiotics for his bladder, but he's still peeing on the carpet, so I'm most concerned about that.

WEITZMAN

12:50:28
Yeah.

LAURA

12:50:29
And, you know, prior to all this he used his box very reliably, so...

WEITZMAN

12:50:34
Yeah.

LAURA

12:50:34
...I was hoping you could give me some advice.

WEITZMAN

12:50:36
Yeah. You know, but Laura, I think you hit it on the head. He's stressed, and where did you move to by the way that's cold and dry in the summer?

LAURA

12:50:43
Oh, Virginia.

WEITZMAN

12:50:45
Oh, okay.

LAURA

12:50:46
Which is colder than where I was, so...

WEITZMAN

12:50:48
Oh, really. Okay. I don't know if many Virginians would say that right now, but -- hey, listen. I think, you know, any move is stressful for people, it's stressful the animals. I just made a 3,000-mile move with my animals. I definitely understand, you know, what Max is experiencing, and you do too. Let me just start with a proviso that you do need to talk to your vet about all of this again, because I don't think that it's just as simple as he's got a bladder infection. It sounds like it's -- there's a whole conglomeration of things that are leading to inflammatory bowel disease.

WEITZMAN

12:51:22
And there's a whole scope of reasons that it can happen, but a lot of them come right down to stress. But it may be that the urinating is not due to an infection, but it's more behavioral, and I would want to, if I were your vet in an exam room with him with all the data in front of me, and the cat, and you, I would really want to concentrate on that bowel problem, because the more antibiotics that you give, the more you throw off his whole GI, you know, bacterial flora, and we don't want to do that either, because that can continue the whole loose bowel thing.

WEITZMAN

12:52:01
So I think for this little fellow, I'd want to take care of his stress, and you know what, that'll happen as you're getting more used to being in your new home anyway. But he may need a different food or something to actually calm his GI system down. So unfortunately, Laura, I think, you know, that would be my theory, but it is something I think you've got to talk to your own vet about and have Max examined again and, you know, maybe one more course of the antibiotics that she already prescribed.

WEITZMAN

12:52:27
You know, I don't want to interfere with what she prescribed, but then after that, we've got to get his, you know, his GI system taken care of, and that may be something to alleviate stress for him, and a whole new food. Gotta get him on something that he doesn't react to, you know, that'll keep his system calm. So I think the first rule of thumb for him, is to get all that cleared up till it's normal, and then you can start working with volumes, and maybe then you can ease into a low carbohydrate diet, because those are the ones that we really think target weight loss in cats and help with other -- avoiding other things.

WEITZMAN

12:53:04
And in a big cat, you know, we worry about diabetes. I think his inflammatory bowel disease needs to be dealt with first, and keep tabs on the urine, but I think you've got to be concentrating on that, and I would bet that if you clear up his bowels, he'll stop going to the bathroom on the rug for you.

LAURA

12:53:21
Fantastic.

WEITZMAN

12:53:21
Good luck. Let us know.

LITZINGER

12:53:22
Keep at it, Laura. Thank you very much. Our telephone number is 877-610-3647. Our email address is animalhouse@wamu.org. Let's take a phone call from Kate. Kate, glad to have you with us in "The Animal House." Question for Dr. Gary?

KATE

12:53:36
I do. And thank you for taking my question. So my call is about rescued Springer Spaniel is the breed I work with.

WEITZMAN

12:53:42
Oh, good.

KATE

12:53:44
And I have a 14 year old, we think, who has started to eat dirt.

WEITZMAN

12:53:48
Well, listen. So Springer Spaniel, is that what you said, Kate, 14 years old?

KATE

12:53:52
Yes. Yes.

WEITZMAN

12:53:53
And she -- what's her name, by the way?

KATE

12:53:56
Her name's Dolly.

WEITZMAN

12:53:58
Dolly, okay.

KATE

12:53:58
Dolly.

WEITZMAN

12:53:59
What is -- so what do you think? Why did -- what started this? Did you -- was the yard fertilized, did you have new mulch, some bone meal or fish meal underneath the tulip beds, or anything you can point to?

KATE

12:54:11
Well, there was a compost pile there and I moved it...

WEITZMAN

12:54:15
Ah.

KATE

12:54:15
...so that might be part of it...

WEITZMAN

12:54:16
You think you moved it.

KATE

12:54:17
...but she likes -- yeah. She likes that and then she likes this old stump.

WEITZMAN

12:54:21
Well, first of all, you know, obviously, anything new developing like this, we want to make sure there's not an underlying problem for the dog that they're lacking nutrients or having an issue that's changed metabolism, all of that, so she's trying to get iron out of the ground. You know, I always say that, and I think I've said that for 20-plus-years as a vet, and I've never seen it, but we still always kind of fall back on that to caution people just in case there's something else going on. Get a good checkup and tell your vet.

WEITZMAN

12:54:46
So all that being done, having said that, I think there's not a whole lot, to first of all, worry about with her eating dirt. Don't want her eat rocks because those can become obstructions, but the dirt itself isn't a big deal, but it does make it hard to grow chrysanthemums. So if you want to stop her from doing it, and you're lucky enough to have just one place to do it that she does that, then I would just fence that part off so that she can't get to it.

WEITZMAN

12:55:12
If it's more pervasive than that, and she's going everywhere to eat dirt, you can actually -- that's a tough one. It is really is tough. And I haven't seen too many dogs that just spend the entire time outside just obsessing over something like that. That would worry me that there's something else going on for here, and again, a conversation with your vet -- and we know at 14, you know, like people at, you know, 85 years old, there can be changes in thinking, and we call that cognitive dysfunction...

KATE

12:55:41
Mm-hmm.

WEITZMAN

12:55:43
...syndrome in dogs, and there are some helpful medications out there to try to boost that, or we talk about using more homeopathic drugs or things like, you know, fish oil which can help with -- and vitamin E which can help with neurologic system. But it's not that she's going all over the yard to do this, it's only in one place, is that right, Kate?

KATE

12:56:05
That's correct. That's correct. And she looks guilty.

WEITZMAN

12:56:07
Okay.

KATE

12:56:07
That's what's so funny.

WEITZMAN

12:56:08
Okay. Then it's just -- good. Good.

KATE

12:56:09
Poor thing looks mortified, but she looks like she's in the cookie jar, like I caught her, she's there, and she's having a great time in a bowl of ice cream.

WEITZMAN

12:56:16
Yes. Yeah.

KATE

12:56:18
And...

WEITZMAN

12:56:19
I would say for you, get that checkup done, and if everything is okay, which I'm sure it probably will be, then I would just fence that off with some chicken wire or something temporarily just to keep her away from it. That's probably your best bet. Or you can actually -- if you really, really want to get involved here, you can give her a -- you can distract her with something more appropriate and more wonderful. So if she goes over there, make sure you're outside there too and have some, you know pieces of chicken...

LITZINGER

12:56:44
Delicious little hot dogs.

WEITZMAN

12:56:45
...or hot dogs and try to get her more positively oriented towards something else. The problem with that is obviously the connection is hey, dirt is good because it gets me hot dogs. So you have to be careful of that too.

KATE

12:56:57
Right. Right.

LITZINGER

12:56:58
Inside the dog brain.

WEITZMAN

12:57:00
The dog brain. It's a scary place.

LITZINGER

12:57:02
Thanks Kate.

KATE

12:57:03
Okay. Thank you.

LITZINGER

12:57:04
All right.

WEITZMAN

12:57:05
Good luck.

LITZINGER

12:57:05
Thank you, Gary.

WEITZMAN

12:57:06
You're welcome. I'm Dr. Gary Weitzman with an "Animal House" pet care tip. As a vet, I can diagnose a heart murmur, treat diabetes or fix a broken leg. But the one thing that seems to thrill everyone in the exam room is trimming a pet's nails. This doesn't surprise me since trimming nails is one of the most difficult things to do. So what's the trick? Four essential steps. A good, sharp pair of nail trimmers, a non-threatening environment with a bowl of the best treats, a human assistant, and a cooperative patient.

WEITZMAN

12:57:38
Just trim the very tips of the nails to start. If your animal lets you do that, next time go a little further. Avoid that quick, that's that area underneath the nail where the vein lives, right at the very base of the nail. With white nails that's easy, with black it's much harder, but you'll get the sense of where to cut. Just stick to the tips and you'll be fine. Of course, if your pet disagrees with any of these steps, let a trained groomer or a good vet tech do this for you. They're both worth their weight in gold. For "The Animal House," I'm Dr. Gary Weitzman.

LITZINGER

12:58:09
This edition of "The Animal House" is near completion. First, here's the answer to our Animal of the Day quiz. Earlier we asked if you could identify the animal that's known for mimicking the songs and sounds of other animals and even some machines. The answer, of course, the Mockingbird. In addition to numerous birds and insects, the Mockingbird has also been known to imitate the sound of car alarms in certain situations.

LITZINGER

12:58:32
Thanks to our guests, Dr. Frank LaFerla, Sue Wallis, Dr. Jan Pol, Rhonda Van Lowe and Bernie Krause for their contributions today. We also thank Bob James, Acoustic Alchemy, and Einojuhani Rautavaara for their music today. Also, special thanks to Dr. Gary Weitzman for his work. Thanks to you for joining us in "The Animal House." I'm Sam Litzinger.
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